The Jewish … The Jewish Tradition:
*There is no (other than a pastoral valley in Jerusalem)
*There is a “next world” which we know nothing about.
*Some people will have a second chance to go to the “next world” (by reincarnation or limbo).
*Evil people will simply die.
*Once you’re dead, God has no need to punish you.
I say tradition, because in the Bible and Talmud there is very little reference to this issue and it’s considered peripheral and unimportant.
It would be … It would be interesting to here what your sources are re afterlife in Judaism. In my reading of the old testament, it isn’t even certain that there is one. Take Ecclesiastes 3:19-22:
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
There is no … There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus
Romans 3:23-24
8 For it is by … 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are Gods workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Ephesians 2: 8-10
34 Do not suppose … 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a mans enemies will be the members of his own household.
Matthew 10:34-36
13 Enter through … 13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matthew 7:13-14
there is no mention … there is no mention of eternal punishment, however it does mention the word Sheol. Instead of meaning eternal punishment as you suggest in the context of where souls will be when they die before the coming of the messiah jewish people believe it means they will wait in their grave . so sheol means grave.
Rabbi Tovia Singer … Rabbi Tovia Singer and I bet many other Rabbis would disagree with you. I even went to the Jewish Encyclopedia online and it did mention eternal punishment.
that is utter … that is utter rubbish! im jewish and in judaism there is no concept of , the guy in the video got it vaguely correct! people dont end up in eternal ation! the ultimate punishment is that they cease to exist after they die.
BAsed on my … BAsed on my research I have to disagree with you. In Judaism, if you are a non-Jew you have to follow the 7 Laws of Noah to enter Olam Haba (The World to Come) or become a practicing Jew or either wise you are cast out forever into eternal torment. I have gone to some Jewish sources and they do teach that there are certain people who are punished for eternity.
You see you need to … You see you need to love God because he is our life without him is death.Not all C hristians believe you are immortal,you are mortal,that means you will perish in the end WITHOUT GRACE.THE BIBLE SAYS THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH,NOT ETERNAL LIFE,YOU ONLY RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE THRU GRACE AND MERCY.YOU WILL DIE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT God.The Jews believe this too.I believe those that do not love God will perish this is backed up scripturely,there is no eternal life for those who dont.
actually, as an ex … actually, as an ex christian, i can say that christianity believes that every non christian goes to even if you are a kind, selfless rabbi etc
no. you need to b a … no. you need to b a nice person and no matter who you think the messiah is, you will be judged on your actions (in the jewish view).
How does being an … How does being an Atheist prevent you from being able to give an accurate description of a religion? Please don’t site the whole “You have to believe to understand” because that is just downright silly. All you need is to be well researched in the beliefs and practices of a particular religious faith to be able to give a description of it.
And from my understanding (correct me if I’m wrong), the Christian Faith DOES say that anyone who doesn’t follow/accept Jesus is destined for eternal .
There are so many … There are so many misconceptions in this video, I don’t know where to begin listing them. Being an Atheist, you can’t really give any kind of accurate description of ANY religion/faith. You make Christianity sound like a select religion that ONLY accepts people based on certain standards, all I can say is that you’re wrong, not all of we Christians are the biggots, crude, single minded morons as described by you.
Comparing the after-lifes of two major religions: Christianity and Judaism. Guess which one doesn’t look so good if you’re an atheist.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
As far as who gets …
As far as who gets to go to the next life, you’re right you just gotta do good deeds in life, and it doesn’t really matter why.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
The Jewish …
The Jewish Tradition:
*There is no (other than a pastoral valley in Jerusalem)
*There is a “next world” which we know nothing about.
*Some people will have a second chance to go to the “next world” (by reincarnation or limbo).
*Evil people will simply die.
*Once you’re dead, God has no need to punish you.
I say tradition, because in the Bible and Talmud there is very little reference to this issue and it’s considered peripheral and unimportant.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
It would be …
It would be interesting to here what your sources are re afterlife in Judaism. In my reading of the old testament, it isn’t even certain that there is one. Take Ecclesiastes 3:19-22:
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
(rest snipped due to limit)
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
There is no …
There is no difference, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus
Romans 3:23-24
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
8 For it is by …
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are Gods workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
Ephesians 2: 8-10
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
34 Do not suppose …
34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a mans enemies will be the members of his own household.
Matthew 10:34-36
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
13 Enter through …
13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Matthew 7:13-14
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Great video nick!
…
Great video nick!
thanks for sharing,
i agree with u 100%!!
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
only very bad …
only very bad people am i correct?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
there is no mention …
there is no mention of eternal punishment, however it does mention the word Sheol. Instead of meaning eternal punishment as you suggest in the context of where souls will be when they die before the coming of the messiah jewish people believe it means they will wait in their grave . so sheol means grave.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Rabbi Tovia Singer …
Rabbi Tovia Singer and I bet many other Rabbis would disagree with you. I even went to the Jewish Encyclopedia online and it did mention eternal punishment.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
that is utter …
that is utter rubbish! im jewish and in judaism there is no concept of , the guy in the video got it vaguely correct! people dont end up in eternal ation! the ultimate punishment is that they cease to exist after they die.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
BAsed on my …
BAsed on my research I have to disagree with you. In Judaism, if you are a non-Jew you have to follow the 7 Laws of Noah to enter Olam Haba (The World to Come) or become a practicing Jew or either wise you are cast out forever into eternal torment. I have gone to some Jewish sources and they do teach that there are certain people who are punished for eternity.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
You see you need to …
You see you need to love God because he is our life without him is death.Not all C hristians believe you are immortal,you are mortal,that means you will perish in the end WITHOUT GRACE.THE BIBLE SAYS THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH,NOT ETERNAL LIFE,YOU ONLY RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE THRU GRACE AND MERCY.YOU WILL DIE PERMANENTLY WITHOUT God.The Jews believe this too.I believe those that do not love God will perish this is backed up scripturely,there is no eternal life for those who dont.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
oh sorry, youtube …
oh sorry, youtube sent that message to my comments box.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
what are you …
what are you talking about?
i my message was a reply to someone else
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
He isn’t. As a Jew …
He isn’t. As a Jew I don’t believe in such.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
im ex christian …
im ex christian mainly for this reason,
i want to become a jew
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
who says jesus is …
who says jesus is the messiah?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
actually, as an ex …
actually, as an ex christian, i can say that christianity believes that every non christian goes to even if you are a kind, selfless rabbi etc
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
no. you need to b a …
no. you need to b a nice person and no matter who you think the messiah is, you will be judged on your actions (in the jewish view).
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
So I can just ” …
So I can just “trust in God,” do whatever I want, and God will give me nice things in this life and a happy afterlife?
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
How does being an …
How does being an Atheist prevent you from being able to give an accurate description of a religion? Please don’t site the whole “You have to believe to understand” because that is just downright silly. All you need is to be well researched in the beliefs and practices of a particular religious faith to be able to give a description of it.
And from my understanding (correct me if I’m wrong), the Christian Faith DOES say that anyone who doesn’t follow/accept Jesus is destined for eternal .
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
There are so many …
There are so many misconceptions in this video, I don’t know where to begin listing them. Being an Atheist, you can’t really give any kind of accurate description of ANY religion/faith. You make Christianity sound like a select religion that ONLY accepts people based on certain standards, all I can say is that you’re wrong, not all of we Christians are the biggots, crude, single minded morons as described by you.
August 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
wrong judaism has …
wrong judaism has 613 commandments